With AI in class, teachers don’t teach and learners don’t learn. Stop justifying it as ‘learning real-world tools’
Porting from LinkedIn:
I got into a conversation about generative AI with a self-described adjunct professor of news writing. Based on what they presented in their own words about their students’ performance and their own teaching, I had some thoughts. They are not favorable.
I won’t name this person because we don’t have a relationship and I recognize that I don’t have all the facts, just some off-the-cuff comments. I’m genuinely not interested in blasting this individual, who I see more as an archetype. Plus, their identity is also irrelevant to anyone not in their class. But the thing is, I can’t help projecting these sentiments broadly and assessing it as bad for the present moment… and worse for the future.
Original poster/ O.P.:
“My students think I don’t know they’re using generative AI, because I don’t fail their papers. But I do know, and here’s the thing: Most of my students who use ChatGPT don’t do well in my class. Why? Because I’m teaching them the foundations of news writing, and ChatGPT doesn’t know how to write a straight news lead. … There are a handful of students I suspect use ChatGPT, but I can’t really tell one way or the other. If that’s the case, I’m of the opinion that they’re using it well, and that’s a skill in and of itself. Truthfully, if the content is good, it’s good — I don’t care how it came to be.
The differentiator between these two groups is the first copies and pastes, and the other takes time to revise and make it their own. AI tools aren’t going away, but I’d like to see more students learn how to use them properly earlier, rather than having to fumble around and fail their writing assignments.”
This open post left me with a prickly case of the intellectual icks.
The “I don’t care” bugged me.
Not wanting to come in exceedingly hot, I said:
“Thanks for your honesty and for sharing. Returning the honesty: I’m disappointed to see this take from a teacher of news writing. I understand it’s grounded in a kind of realism. I also can understand how my disappointment will be perceived and I can live with that.”
Someone else asked me, open-endedly:
“Why does it disappoint you?”
And since I was asked, I replied:
“Because you can’t ‘make it your own’ if you don’t fully know what ‘yours’ is in the first place. Because ‘I don’t care how it came to be’ is a moral failure for an instructor whose job specifically is to instruct students on the means and method for that ‘how’. Because school is exactly the time to learn how to think, not the time to learn how to skip the thinking.
I could go on, but I am sure there will be defenses and excuses and disagreements for all these (and more). I can’t do much about any of that, but I can be disappointed by it.”
O.P.:
“I understand your point, and — maybe to be a bit too frank — the idea that a student could be able to ‘fool me’ by getting away with using it used to make me a little mad. But the way we teach writing in a universe where generative AI exists needs to change. My job is to teach them to write good news. On some level, to succeed in a news writing class, you need to be a good writer — just as a baseline. And to use generative AI as a tool to create good news, you still need to be a good writer. If they submit a good story, I’m not sure I should care if they used a tool to create their first draft. At this point, I think we need to shift our focus on how to use it responsibly.”
I disagreed:
“Whether students can ‘fool you’ is irrelevant, and getting mad about that is ego. (Which extends to anyone reacting to AI, we all can have that reaction, not you personally.)
By using genAI they generated their first draft, they haven’t created anything. They prompted and reviewed, then revised. Not created. That’s why yes, you should care if they used it.
I would perhaps agree with you if this approach and the tools were used at the internship, fellowship or apprentice stage — after longer-form fundamentals have been laid down and internalized.
But I will not agree that this permission, or even encouragement, to shortcut actual thinking and actual effort is conscientious teaching at the student stage. I would hope a news writing teacher’s job is to teach students to gather facts, use judgment, and write well, not to just generate a summary of notes.
Yes, of course, if the students are using it outside your control, the concept of responsible use and pointed discussion of ethical concerns need to be added to the curriculum. Added around, not substituted for, *doing the work*.
But again, the not caring about the use — prioritizing only the ‘good’ appearance of the result — concerns me.”
Original poster offered this context:
“Truthfully Amy, I think we’re concerned about the same thing and hung up on semantics.”
[AW: No, we are not concerned about the same thing and semantics have nothing to do with it.]
^ (Brackets are my inside thoughts, not shared with the O.P.)
“My class is purely the most basic news writing. In our earliest assignments, I give my students a set of jumbled facts and tell them to write a story. They’ll go on to learn about how to gather those facts themselves later on.
“Ideally, they’re not using AI at all to write their stories. If they are using it, the next best case is that they’re using it to help organize their thoughts before creating a draft.
[AW: AI is not helping them and they are not organizing their thoughts. They are skipping the organizing, and not thinking at all, even at this most basic level of skill. They are not creating a draft if AI takes a set of proffered facts and “organizes” them and the students essentially just watch.]
“The things I’m teaching in my class are fundamentals: organization, AP Style, setting up a quote the proper way, etc. If you turn in a story that is written well and meets all of the fundamentals, you’ve demonstrated you understand them. If you turn in a story that’s organized well, you’ve demonstrated good judgement.
[AW: I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Recognizing as well-organized a computer-generated paragraph assembled from presented facts is not at all understanding fundamentals and is not demonstrating good judgment and is definitely not writing well. It is reading just well enough something that was written just well enough.]
“A draft copied from ChatGPT isn’t going to check the boxes I’m looking for. Again: If it’s a well-written, thought-out piece of writing, they have to demonstrate some critical thinking, whether they used ChatGPT or not. That’s what I mean when I say if it’s good, it’s good.
[AW: To say that students who read, revise and submit regurgitated genAI versions of provided copy “have to demonstrate some critical thinking” is the lowest possible bar I can imagine for critical thinking.]
“Ultimately, my point is that my hope is students start to learn what to use AI for and what not to use AI for *before* they take my class.”
[AW: Irrelevant. The professor runs their class and should themselves be teaching what to use AI for and what not to in this context right here. This tech reached the general population just about two years ago. A blink. It’s unlikely anyone is teaching ethical AI use generally to pre-professional students, so they are not learning its use in any context… they are just using the tools in naïve and native ways without boundaries. Educators like this are not keeping up with them, nor enforcing ethics or boundaries — basically just surrendering in advance!]
The most disturbing part here is that this adjunct professor seems to think they actually are teaching judgment and critical thinking. “Responsibly”!!!!
Excuse me, what?! I am not calling for failing grades every time AI is suspected or found, but nor do I think professors should be blithely accepting shortcuts and skipped steps and pretending that’s a skill.]
This conversation was extremely illuminating, and I don’t mean that in a good way. So to end the conversation, I briefly thanked them for the additional context and disengaged, then stared depressedly out the window for a while. Days later, I can’t shake it.
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Look, real talk: We know that not all students are strivers, and not all teachers are educators.
I’m not a parent and I’m not in touch with contemporary schooling at any level. I know most teachers are doing more than their best with little support. There are problems with administrators and DOEs at the state and federal levels. But I’m deeply concerned about how fast educational paradigms are shifting and how poorly America is setting itself up for success.
I happen to have opinions about this teacher and this coursework because I know the subject well. I’m sure each of us could get into a chat like this in our respective areas of expertise. I hope you’d have a better result! But I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that we absolutely need to demand more of our journalists-in-training — especially in this mega misinformation moment.
Parents, teach your children to demand higher standards and challenges for themselves. Self-advocating is maybe their only chance to rise beyond rock-bottom-and-sinking standards.
Thanks for reading this exceedingly long rant.
I’d love to hear your thoughts.